I'm fairly new here, but there's one thing about a lot of these articles I've noticed: they're excessive and difficult-to-read, often blocky and gramatically bullet-ridden. I tried to figure out what was going on during the Othinus arc and could barely make it through the first few paragraphs, they were so bad.
Before I step on someone's toes, I'm trying to edit the abilities of various characters to make them simpler to understand, while retaining the information links and basic concepts behind the ability. To start with, Mitsuari Ayu, a character from one of the recent novels. Her ability can be summarized, and I edited it, and provided the reason for that edit.
However, I've had my edits undone twice, with no reason. Just one user and then a guest user.
How should I proceed here? I want to be aggressive about it and wear the other person down by continuining to undo their revisions, but that seems unproductive, and it seemed better to tell the mods on them before they told on me. I haven't seen any particular forum threads for discussing article revision.
I have seen the edits you have made and rather than summarizing them it feels that you cut out details that you feel are unnecessary and do not help summarize it. Yes at times we have gone into to much detail, but I for one dislike the wikis that sum up a characters part in an arc by condensing it to a single paragraph. If you want to help why not creat a sandbox to test out your summaries before making it official and get feed back from others.
To be fair, Eugar has a point. Some of the articles have too much information that are probably covered by other articles already or can be summarized without issue, and articles related to the latter arcs of New Testament have this kind of problem. On the other hand, I do feel that the Ability section of Mitsuari Ayu needs to have that particular level of detail so that readers would understand how Mental Stinger works.
True, there are a fair number of articles which could do with some considerable improvement, which have large portions of text that are somewhat messily written, excessive, a bit wafflely/flowery, and on some occasions, too close to source (and a cause of quite a few headaches/BSODs), though refining is usually preferred over removal.
(This might not be entirely appropriate but I will say that I did find a couple of the recent additions to Mitsuari Ayu's page to be a little bit sloppy)
I was just thinking that although it isn't yet time to perform editing regarding NT11 matters on the main pages (although it will be very soon), it might be an idea to discuss a few things somewhere in advance. Do you think this is the case and if so, where would you like it discussed?
P.S. I assume you still intend to do the Dream Ranker Arc?
NT11: The forums are still a good way to exchange thoughts about dealing with NT11 intel.
Dream Ranker Arc: Yep. It would be my "pet project" of sorts. I haven't started on it because there's only one chapter's worth of things to add. I'll probably start as soon as the next chapter happens.
Hey, Herald! I'm reaching out to you because we were hoping to set up a "Parent Page" on the Toaru Majutsu no Index Wiki. Here is a Parent Page example from the Dragon Ball Wiki to give you an idea of what the page entails. Essentially, it's a guide for parents about the age range for different wikis with details about the franchise that might be important when deciding whether or not to allow their kids to watch/play it. Since you and the other admins are more knowledgeable about the series and are the actual community experts, it would be great if you could help us fill it out! Let me know if you have any questions :)
Hey there! Just wanted to let you know I moved the templates over to set up the parent page here. It's blank right now and I'm hoping to get some information on there soon, but feel free to edit it as you see fit!
That's a great help in setting up the page. Filling it up will be done as soon as possible.
By the way, should the wiki use the licensee's ratings on the series if it is applicable? The Index and Railgun anime series were already licensed before, so I guess we just have to use their ratings for the shows?
The Table of Contents bar on the Laura Stuart page can expand and collapse, but in doing so it doesn't display any of the article's headings. I'm unsure on how to solve this despite searching through the various editing manuals.
None of the section headings are appearing in the table of contents for you? They seem to be working fine for me, so I wonder why they are not appearing for you. There might be something else which is causing the problem other than the wiki itself, but I'm not sure what could be doing it. Do you know of anything on your browser/computer which might possibly be interfering?
Sorry to bother you Marcus, but I thought I'd probably better check before proceeding. I was thinking about making an article on the Magic-Science Treaty however I wasn't sure what I should call it. What do you reckon?
I have a few more minor questions for you. First, I was thinking about composing article drafts concerning magic-related falsities and theories, as well as a recurrence count, however I wasn't sure whether they would be appropriate or if they were, what would be the best title for them. Second, I was also considering entries for Between the lines and a Merch. list but I wasn't sure if they would be appropriate either. What do you reckon?
Merchandise List (List of Toaru Majutsu no Index merchandise and/or List of Toaru Kagaku no Railgun merchandise could do) would be a great thing to have, especially for collectors of Index- and Railgun-related merchandise. An article for Between the lines is unneeded, though. BTL is already hosted in the chapters they appear in, so any references for them just can be linked to the chapter or the chapter#Between the lines instead.
I haven't seen the drafts for magic-related falsities and theories. Could you link them to me so that I can read them? Also, what do you mean for a recurrence count?
Sorry, I probably should have been a bit clearer. By recurrence count, I was thinking about a Trivia-category article with a count of certain recurring instances within the series (such as certain running gags). For BTL, I was thinking of a minor entry explaining the nature of the BTL sections rather than covering the contents of the sections. The draft for the falsities is here. I haven't got far with any of the mentioned subjects as I wasn't sure whether they were suitable subjects for an article (or a blog post).
Recurrence count: Recurrence count for gags isn't really that necessary. The only reason why those gags are recognized is to determine that it exists and not because it happens for x times in a volume.
Between the lines: Can we instead add those to the volumes instead? Volume 16 already mentions the contents of BTL on the intro section.
Falsities: It would be a small article given the few instances of it in the series, but it is relevant information, especially with the Stab Sword thing.
For the falsities, would the current title be OK or would another one fit better? For BTL, sorry, I didn't mean nature quite like that. Rather than an article entry, perhaps a little note on the main LN entry would be more appropriate?
Falsities: I feel that the word "falsity" covers "what's a lie" and "what is not true" perfectly. "Misconception" doesn't include intentional lies and "falsehood" doesn't seem to roll off the tongue better.
Drafts ready for the Falsities article & a possible BTL (+ general structure) note. Anything you reckon needs improving or anything you can see that is missing? Also, any preference as how the Merchandise draft is divided up?
Falsities: I can't add anything about it yet since I'm still in the process of finishing the light novels, but it's good in its current form. Editing can be done as soon as it gets published anyway.
BTL: Ah, that would be added to the main light novel series article, right?
Merchandise: For starters, I think the disc releases should go in a separate article, as do albums and soundtracks, guidebooks, and individual audio drama releases. All the others like figurines and other relevant merch can go to its own article.
Hey, herald! I'm reaching out to you because we have 2 giveaways we were hoping you could help us promote. One giveaway is to celebrate the release of Railgun S part 1 and 2, so anyone who buys it from FUNimation site (either of the DVDs) by 8/13/14 will be entered to win a Nendoroid figure of Misaka, Misaka Clone, or Kuroko. The 2nd giveaway is to actually give away other copies of said DVDs on this wikia. We're not sure how many copies we're getting right now, but hopefully more than 1 set!
We usually host these things via blogs so I was wondering if you're okay with that format and then with us promoting the giveaways somewhere on the main page or by posting about it in the forums and highlighting the respective thread to the community. Example of giveaway is this one we recently did on Transformers (there is the giveaway blog and then an official rules blog that it links to): Transformers Giveaway. Anyway, let me know if you're okay with the hosting and promoting and we'll handle it all :) Thanks!
I'm sure everyone who loves the characters up for grabs will also be interested in this promo, so I welcome this first in the Toaru Majutsu no Index Wiki. As soon as you've posted the promo in the blog, I'll spread it on Twitter (@TAMNIWiki) and make a link of it on the front page.
Now it is come to the end. My computer has crashed and I am now unable to do anything of any significance for a while, and maybe ever, for all the files that I have pertaining to the Toaru Majutsu no Index universe including the large amount of collected data that I have arranged for use in this wiki is likely lost, and I do not have the energy nor the time to reacquire them all back. I am now currently writing in a computer that it isn't mine. I have promoted another user that is currently very active to that of a higher level to replenish our numbers as the wiki is still active as ever in spite of the lack of anime.
I am certain that the wiki will become better in spite of my absence.
I'm also having a difficult time juggling through my many interests and wikis to look out for. It's rather obvious given by activity, so I continue to apologize for that. But rest assured, I'm still here lurking, hoping that I would be able to push through the stuff I need to do (namely the synopsis articles).
That said, I hope that you'd be able to get back what you lost in your PC, at least.
There will be no goodbyes. Let's be optimistic. :)
Would you be willing to do the entirety of the articles for the Silent Party Arc of Railgun S' second half? I'm still trying to do the articles for NT8 since everybody else seemed to have stopped making them, and I hope I would not be as delayed as last time which took two months for the articles to written.
Here are the Index atwiki's index for the Railgun S anime: Index atwiki
Ah, sure thing. It would also be advantageous for me since I do not have the "negative bias" other fans have towards the Silent Party Arc. Well, since I've watched the arc in its entirely, I'll just use that link to double-check my work.
Any idea how we can color the collapsible buttons into white, since most of our navigation boxes' headers have dark backgrounds, without turning every other link white? Tried this class="mw-collapsible-toggle mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" on the Hawaii Invasion Arc template and the results were unsatisfactory (every link was white).
Or would it be better to just color all the templates that uses these dark backgrounds into a neutral color?